Legislature(2005 - 2006)

03/23/2006 02:51 PM House FIN


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02:55:42 PM HB366
05:39:13 PM Adjourn
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HOUSE BILL NO. 365                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act making appropriations  for the operating and loan                                                                   
     program  expenses  of  state   government,  for  certain                                                                   
     programs,    and    to    capitalize    funds;    making                                                                   
     appropriations  under art. IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution                                                                   
     of the State  of Alaska, from the  constitutional budget                                                                   
     reserve fund; and providing for an effective date.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 365                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act making appropriations  for the operating and loan                                                                   
     program  expenses  of  state   government,  for  certain                                                                   
     programs,    and    to    capitalize    funds;    making                                                                   
     appropriations  under art. IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution                                                                   
     of the State  of Alaska, from the  constitutional budget                                                                   
     reserve fund; and providing for an effective date.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 366                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An  Act  making  appropriations for  the  operating  and                                                                   
     capital    expenses    of   the    state's    integrated                                                                   
     comprehensive mental  health program; and  providing for                                                                   
     an effective date.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                         AMENDMENTS                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 Department of Environmental Conservation - (no amendments)                                                                     
                Department of Fish and Game                                                                                     
                        Legislature                                                                                             
          Office of the Governor - (no amendments)                                                                              
           Department of Health & Social Services                                                                               
                     Department of Law                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault MOVED to ADOPT Law #3.  Representative                                                                        
Hawker OBJECTED.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHN HARRIS,  SPEAKER  OF  THE HOUSE,  stated                                                                   
that  LAW #3 was  a request  from the  City of  Valdez for  a                                                                   
district  attorney   and  that   he  was  working   with  the                                                                   
Department   of  Law   to  address   these   concerns.     He                                                                   
acknowledged  the request  was large,  including about  three                                                                   
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DEAN  GUANELI,  CHIEF ASSISTANT  ATTORNEY  GENERAL,  CRIMINAL                                                                   
DIVISION, DEPARTMENT  OF LAW, advised  there are a  number of                                                                   
district attorney  offices across Alaska and  that almost all                                                                   
of those offices  are required to cover court  proceedings in                                                                   
surrounding  areas.    Some  areas do  not  have  a  district                                                                   
attorney.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:55:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Guaneli pointed  out  that a  number  of communities  of                                                                   
comparable size,  actually have  larger caseloads  than those                                                                   
in  Valdez.   Placement  of  district attorneys  is  actually                                                                   
driven by caseload.   He noted the office that  covers Valdez                                                                   
is located in Palmer.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault  understood   that  the  Department   was                                                                   
adequately staffed in the Valdez  area and was not requesting                                                                   
the funding with the amendment.  Mr. Guaneli said correct.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker MAINTAINDED  his OBJECTION.   Co-Chair                                                                   
Chenault WITHDREW LAW #3.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:58:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holm  MOVED to ADOPT  F&G #1, which  would add                                                                   
$250 thousand  general fund dollars  to the Hunter  Education                                                                   
Public  Shooting Ranges,  1004  General Fund  and delete  the                                                                   
amount from the same appropriation  component, funding source                                                                   
1023 Fish  and Game Fund.   There being NO OBJECTION,  F&G #1                                                                   
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm MOVED to  ADOPT F&G #2.   Representative                                                                   
Hawker OBJECTED for clarification.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm explained that  the amendment  would add                                                                   
$200  thousand   1018  EVOS   Trust  dollars  to   Commercial                                                                   
Fisheries.    The fund  shift  would  allow for  the  dogfish                                                                   
research/studies in Price William Sound area.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.   There being                                                                   
NO further OBJECTION, F&G #2 was adopted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:01:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses  MOVED to ADOPT F&G #3.   Representative                                                                   
Kerttula OBJECTED for clarification.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses  explained  that  the  amendment  would                                                                   
delete  Intent L  regarding Southeast  Dive  Fisheries.   The                                                                   
draft House  committee substitute  deleted the $150  thousand                                                                   
dollar   increment   to   the  Governor's   budget   by   the                                                                   
subcommittee  for SE Dive  Fisheries but  left in the  intent                                                                   
language that accompanied that  increment.  If the Department                                                                   
honored  the  intent language  without  receiving  additional                                                                   
funding  for  that  purpose,   other  core  programs  of  the                                                                   
Commercial  Fisheries Division  would have  to be  cut.   The                                                                   
amendment simply  deletes the  intent language regarding  the                                                                   
SE Dive Fisheries.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kerttula WITHDREW  her OBJECTION.  There being                                                                   
NO further OBJECTION, F&G #3 was adopted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:02:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault MOVED to ADOPT  F&G #4.  Vice Chair Stoltze                                                                   
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SHARON KELLY, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  MIKE CHENAULT, explained                                                                   
that the amendment would restore  funding sources and amounts                                                                   
as reflected in  the Governor's version of the  FY07 adjusted                                                                   
base.    General  fund increments  were  requested  for  FY07                                                                   
salary  adjustments when  increased  revenue  from the  other                                                                   
funding sources was not likely.   In the Governor's operating                                                                   
budget request,  other funding  source base adjustments  were                                                                   
requested.  Without the amendment,  the Division will have to                                                                   
absorb costs, which will cause  reductions to programs, staff                                                                   
and services.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   · Eliminate the Chilkoot River sockeye weir and reduce                                                                       
     staff  attendance at  Fish and  Game Advisory  Committee                                                                   
     meetings in the Southeast Region;                                                                                          
   · Eliminate the Central region's aquaculture/mari-culture                                                                    
     permitting  and   planning  functions  and   reduce  the                                                                   
     Central     region's    public    information     office                                                                   
     capabilities;                                                                                                              
   · Reduce Kuskokwin and Yukon Delta Herring biomass and                                                                       
     fishery  monitoring   surveys  by  approximately   half,                                                                   
     reduce  the  AYK  region's   public  information  office                                                                   
     capabilities,    and   reduce   Yukon    summer   salmon                                                                   
     monitoring;                                                                                                                
   · Eliminate the Chignik River sockeye salmon smelt and                                                                       
     stock   composition   projects,  rescue   the   Westward                                                                   
     region's  marine fisheries  research  staff, and  reduce                                                                   
     staff  attendance at  Fish and  Game Advisory  Committee                                                                   
     and other public meetings; or                                                                                              
   · Use the $400.0 General Fund increment approved by the                                                                      
     House  Fish and  Game  Finance subcommittee  to  restore                                                                   
     State   funding    to   Southeast   salmon    management                                                                   
     biologists, and  $22.2 thousand dollars out  of the $300                                                                   
     thousand  dollars CFEC  Receipts  increment to  increase                                                                   
     salmon stock  assessment projects in the  Central Region                                                                   
     to cover the reduction.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There  being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTION, F&G #4 was adopted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:04:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to ADOPT  F&G  #5.   Representative                                                                   
Holm  OBJECTED.   The  amendment  would add  $391.4  thousand                                                                   
general  fund dollars,  deleting the same  amount of  federal                                                                   
receipt dollars  for wildlife conservation;  additionally, it                                                                   
would add $35.1 thousand general  fund dollars and delete the                                                                   
same  amount of  inter agency  receipt  dollars for  wildlife                                                                   
conservation special projects.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kelly explained  that  the amendment  would  be used  to                                                                   
restore  funding  sources and  amounts  as reflected  in  the                                                                   
Governor's version  of the FY07 adjusted base.   General fund                                                                   
increments  were   requested  for  unavoidable   FY07  salary                                                                   
adjustments when  increasing revenue  from the other  funding                                                                   
sources could not  be realized.  In the  Governor's operating                                                                   
budget  request, other  funding source  base adjustments  are                                                                   
requested  when   they  are  expected  to   obtain  increased                                                                   
revenue.  It would be an adjustment to salaries.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kelly continued,  without the amendment,  the Division of                                                                   
Wildlife  Conservation would  have to  absorb personnel  cost                                                                   
increases for  Public Employee  Retirement System  (PERS) and                                                                   
bargaining  unit  contracts  from  existing  programs.    The                                                                   
Division  does  not anticipate  that  other  funding  sources                                                                   
would realize  the necessary revenue  to pay the  unavoidable                                                                   
increased  costs for existing  positions.   The action  would                                                                   
force reductions  to the frequency  of field surveys  for big                                                                   
game species and hunting opportunities for Alaskans.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holm  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTION, F&G #5 was adopted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:04:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to ADOPT  F&G #6,  which would  add                                                                   
$174.4  thousand   general  fund  dollars  and   delete  $7.1                                                                   
thousand CIP receipts,  $8.5 EVOS Trust dollars  & $158.0 I/A                                                                   
receipt dollars  for Administration services,  administration                                                                   
& support for the Department.   Representative Holm OBJECTED.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kelly  explained  that the  amendment  restores  funding                                                                   
sources and  amounts as reflected  in the Governor's  version                                                                   
of  the FY07  adjusted  base.   General  fund increments  are                                                                   
requested for FY07 salary adjustments  when increased revenue                                                                   
from the  other funding sources  is not anticipated.   In the                                                                   
Governor's  operating budget  request,  other funding  source                                                                   
base  adjustments   are  requested  when  likely   to  obtain                                                                   
increased  funding.    Without the  amendment,  the  Division                                                                   
would have  to absorb  the costs,  which would cause  various                                                                   
reductions to programs, staff and services.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm  interjected  that  F&G  #4,  #5  &  #6,                                                                   
"perverts the  legislative and  subcommittee process".   With                                                                   
his  comments on  record,  Representative  Holm WITHDREW  his                                                                   
OBJECTION.   There  being NO  further OBJECTION,  F&G #6  was                                                                   
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:06:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses  MOVED to ADOPT F&G #7,  which would add                                                                   
$278 thousand general fund dollars,  deleting the same amount                                                                   
for Headquarters  Fisheries Management, Commercial  Fisheries                                                                   
appropriation.  Co-Chair Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses pointed  out that  the amendment  would                                                                   
change  the  funding  source for  the  Extended  Jurisdiction                                                                   
section.  That area provides data  and policy analyses needed                                                                   
for  State   participation  in  the  North   Pacific  Fishery                                                                   
Management   Council  and  other   federal  fishery   arenas.                                                                   
Funding for that area has been  federal, but the funding fell                                                                   
short.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  commented that  the Division had  adequate                                                                   
funding to accomplish the necessary  tasks of the Department.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:08:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Kerttula, Moses                                                                                                  
OPPOSED:       Weyhrauch, Foster, Hawker, Holm, Kelly,                                                                          
               Stoltze, Meyer, Chenault                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:09:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses  MOVED to ADOPT F&G #8,  which would add                                                                   
$300  thousand   general  fund  dollars  to   the  Commercial                                                                   
Fisheries Special Projects.  Co-Chair Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses  noted that the amendment  would restore                                                                   
the ground fish/shellfish project  increment to the requested                                                                   
level.   The  funding  would  provide biometric  support  for                                                                   
survey  design   and  data  analysis  in   various  shellfish                                                                   
programs, shrimp  stock assessments, and  biological sampling                                                                   
in the red sea urchin fishery.  It would fund:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   · Shrimp stock assessments in Prince William Sound, Cook                                                                     
     Inlet & the Westward Region;                                                                                               
   · Biological catch sampling, data analysis and population                                                                    
     assessment for crab species in Southeast Alaska; and                                                                       
   · Fund a trawl survey for the Norton Sound Red King Crab                                                                     
     fishery, the most valuable fishery north of the Yukon                                                                      
     River.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Kerttula, Moses                                                                                                  
OPPOSED:       Weyhrauch, Foster, Hawker, Holm, Kelly,                                                                          
               Stoltze, Meyer, Chenault                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:11:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses  MOVED to ADOPT F&G #9,  which would add                                                                   
$150 thousand general fund dollars,  deleting the same amount                                                                   
in  federal  funds  for  the   Commercial  Fisheries  Special                                                                   
Project Management.  Co-Chair Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses  explained  that  the  amendment  would                                                                   
restore  and increment  to  the  $300 thousand  dollar  level                                                                   
requested in the Governor's budget  for Bristol Bay Science &                                                                   
Education Initiative & restore  authorization for 3 Petroleum                                                                   
Production Tax (PPT) staff.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  questioned  if  the amount  had  been                                                                   
taken  care of  through F&G  #4.   Co-Chair Chenault  thought                                                                   
that was so.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  commented that  the Committee  was charged                                                                   
with the  issue to control  the budget.  Representative  Holm                                                                   
interjected that there are other  funds that could be used to                                                                   
do  address   the  concern.    Co-Chair   Chenault  requested                                                                   
Representative  Holm and Representative  Moses work  together                                                                   
to address the concern.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
F&G #9 was HELD for further consideration.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:13:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses WITHDREW F&G #10.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:13:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kerttula  MOVED to ADOPT F&G  #11, which would                                                                   
add  $200 thousand  general fund  dollars  to the  Commercial                                                                   
Fisheries  Special   Projects-Southeast  Region.     Co-Chair                                                                   
Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kerttula  added that F&G #4 took  care of part                                                                   
of the  amendment and would  restore Southeast  Region salmon                                                                   
stock assessment  increment  at the level  in the  Governor's                                                                   
budget.  F&G #11 specific projects  include the Chilkat River                                                                   
mark  and   recapture  studies,  increased   aerial  surveys,                                                                   
reinstatement of  weirs previously eliminated due  to reduced                                                                   
funding, and  increased seasonal  duration of weir  operation                                                                   
that has been reduced due to reduction in funding.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kerttula MOVED  to AMEND F&G #11, reducing the                                                                   
amount by  $27.4 thousand dollars,  making the  total request                                                                   
in  the  amount  of $172.6  thousand  general  fund  dollars.                                                                   
There being NO OBJECTION, the amendment was amended.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DENBY  LLOYD,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF  COMMERCIAL  FISHERIES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF FISH AND  GAME, commented  that the  amendment                                                                   
would provide  funds to replace  aerial surveys  in Southeast                                                                   
Alaska for the  salmon assessment program.   Additionally, it                                                                   
would  help restore  the  Chilkat  River fish  wheel  project                                                                   
providing a full estimate of sockeye  salmon abundance, which                                                                   
is  integral to  the  management  of the  northern  Southeast                                                                   
fisheries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Holm  pointed   out  a  substantial   budget                                                                   
increase over the past four years to that component.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker inquired  if the request was creating a                                                                   
new area.   Mr.  Lloyd stated  there was  one single  special                                                                   
project included in the budget  & for clarification purposes,                                                                   
the Department  identified that  increment in the  Governor's                                                                   
budget component, as divided by region.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Kerttula, Moses                                                                                                  
OPPOSED:       Weyhrauch, Foster, Hawker, Holm, Kelly,                                                                          
               Stoltze, Meyer, Chenault                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:19:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses WITHDREW F&G #12.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:19:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses MOVED to  ADOPT F&G #13, which would add                                                                   
$400.0 thousand general fund dollars  to the Westward Region,                                                                   
Commercial Fisheries,  deleting that amount from  the federal                                                                   
receipts,  and  deleting  the  unrealizable  federal  receipt                                                                   
authority from  the Department's budget.  Vice  Chair Stoltze                                                                   
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses  stressed that F&G #13  is important, as                                                                   
it  allows the  Department  to conduct  critically  important                                                                   
aerial surveys, reinstate weirs  previously eliminated due to                                                                   
reduced  funding  and  increase  seasonal  duration  of  weir                                                                   
operations in  areas where duration  has been reduced  due to                                                                   
funding reductions.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Kerttula, Moses, Foster                                                                                          
OPPOSED:       Weyhrauch, Hawker, Holm, Kelly, Stoltze,                                                                         
               Meyer, Chenault                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Moses WITHDREW F&G #14.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:22:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holm  MOVED to ADOPT F&G #15,  which would add                                                                   
$70 thousand  1007 inter agency  receipts to Sport  Fisheries                                                                   
Habitat.  Vice Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm   stated  that  implementation   of  the                                                                   
amendment would  be used for  RS2477 navigability  and access                                                                   
defense.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There  being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTIONS, F&G #15 was adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:23:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holm  MOVED to ADOPT F&G #16,  which would add                                                                   
$704.1 thousand  1024 Fish &  Game Funds to Sport  Fisheries,                                                                   
while deleting  $100 thousand  Sport Fish Enterprise  Account                                                                   
dollars   and   $604.1   thousand   general   fund   dollars.                                                                   
Representative Kerttula OBJECTED for further clarification.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm  explained   that  the  amendment  would                                                                   
replace general fund and Sport  Fish Enterprise Account funds                                                                   
with Fish & Game  Funds.  The Sport Fish Division  has a $5.7                                                                   
million  dollar  balance  that   can  be  utilized  prior  to                                                                   
expending general  funds.  The  highest priority  for general                                                                   
fund  spending  within  the Department  is  in  the  Wildlife                                                                   
Conservation  Division, which  has a  negative balance.   The                                                                   
change   would  force   the  Department   and  the   Wildlife                                                                   
Conservation  Division  to operate  Hunter  Education  Public                                                                   
Shooting Ranges at increased capacities  and without reliance                                                                   
on decreasing  the hunting  license fee  receipts within  the                                                                   
Fish and Game Fund.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JIM  DIERINGER, STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE JIM  HOLM, added  that                                                                   
the  funding  had  been requested  by  the  Sports  Division,                                                                   
requesting  general fund  dollars.   The money  used for  the                                                                   
shooting range is a general fund  increment, not requested by                                                                   
the Governor.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kerttula did not  understand, questioning what                                                                   
would be  received for  the shooting  ranges.  Mr.  Derringer                                                                   
explained that the $250 thousand  dollar amendment previously                                                                   
adopted would  be a  general fund  increment to the  shooting                                                                   
ranges.   Sport Fish had a  balance left from last  year; the                                                                   
subcommittee thought it was appropriate to move the funds.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
TOM LAWSON, DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF                                                                   
FISH AND GAME,  understood that the amendment  would back out                                                                   
monies from the  House Finance Committee (HFC)  substitute to                                                                   
deal  with the  "unrealized" federal  funds.   The  amendment                                                                   
would  back-out   general  fund  dollars  and   replace  that                                                                   
authorization.    He  believed  it  would  "un-do"  what  was                                                                   
requested.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:28:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Kelly, Foster, Hawker, Holm, Chenault, Meyer                                                                     
OPPOSED:       Kerttula, Moses, Stoltze, Weyhrauch                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (6-4).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:29:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LEGISLATURE                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch  MOVED  to ADOPT  LEGIS  #2,  which                                                                   
would  add  $70  thousand  interagency  receipt  dollars  for                                                                   
Legislative Budget  and Audit  (LBA) component.   There being                                                                   
NO OBJECTION, the amendment was adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:30:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
*Representative  Hawker MOVED  to  ADOPT HSS  #1, which  adds                                                                   
$1.5  million  general  fund  dollars  and  $2,152.0  million                                                                   
federal fund  dollars to the Developmental  Disabilities (DD)                                                                   
Medicaid  waiver   for  seniors  and  Disabilities   Medicaid                                                                   
Services; it  would also delete  $1.500 million  general fund                                                                   
dollars    from   the    disproportionate   share    hospital                                                                   
authorization,  Medicaid   Services.    Vice   Chair  Stoltze                                                                   
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                   
complete funding  the DD waitlisted  needs identified  by the                                                                   
Governor's Council  on Disabilities  & Special Education;  it                                                                   
incorporates recommendations  of the Ad Hoc  Committee on the                                                                   
Developmental  Disabilities  waitlist.   The  balance of  the                                                                   
appropriation   for  the   Disproportionate  Share   Hospital                                                                   
Authorization  upon   passage  of  the  amendment   would  be                                                                   
$3.223.1 million  general fund  dollars and $4.954.4  million                                                                   
federal dollars.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:34:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There  being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTION, HSS #1 was adopted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:34:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LEGISLATURE                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Stoltze MOVED to RESCIND  previous action taken on                                                                   
adopting  LEGIS  #2.   There  being  NO  OBJECTION,  previous                                                                   
action  was   rescinded.     Then  Representative   Weyhrauch                                                                   
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Derringer  explained that it would  provide clarification                                                                   
as there had been a typing error.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch  WITHDREW  his  OBJECTION.    There                                                                   
being NO further OBJECTION, LEGIS  #2 was adopted as amended.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:37:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker MOVED  to  ADOPT HSS  #2, which  would                                                                   
delete $1,990.2  million general  fund dollars from  Medicaid                                                                   
Services in the  Health Care Services component.   Vice Chair                                                                   
Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  explained  that the  change  resulted                                                                   
from  a reduction  to  the Medicare  Part  D  clawback.   The                                                                   
Centers  for Medicaid  and Medicare  Services (CMS)  recently                                                                   
revised  downward the  per capita  Medicare  Part D  clawback                                                                   
phase-down  payment   from  $145.32  (budgeted)   to  $119.57                                                                   
million  dollars.    The  payment  was  reduced  because  the                                                                   
inflation rate used for the calculation  changed.  The amount                                                                   
of general fund  match needed by the Department  dropped from                                                                   
$4,360.0 to $2,369.8 million dollars.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There  being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTION, HSS #2 was adopted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:38:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holm  MOVED to ADOPT  HSS #3, which  would add                                                                   
$1,700.0  million   1004  general  funds  dollars   to  Human                                                                   
Services Community  Matching Grants.   Representative  Hawker                                                                   
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm noted  that it would  restore the  Human                                                                   
Services  matching  grant  to previous  levels,  funding  the                                                                   
Governor's  request,  leveraged   six  times  @  $12  million                                                                   
dollars.   He pointed out that  there are 12  worthy agencies                                                                   
who use those funds.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  responded  that  the  matching  grant                                                                   
component  had been an  issue every  year.   It is a  program                                                                   
that gives  block grants to  the municipalities and  does not                                                                   
provide  services outside  other  areas of  the  State.   The                                                                   
block  grant program  is divided  among Alaskan  communities.                                                                   
The program has been level funded  for the past few years and                                                                   
monies  were added  last  year,  holding harmless  Matsu  and                                                                   
Fairbanks.  He  acknowledged that the Governor  had requested                                                                   
the program increment.  The subcommittee  maintained the base                                                                   
funding  and that  nothing more  had  been replaced.   It  is                                                                   
difficult to  allocate general  fund money to  accomplish the                                                                   
greatest  good for  State services;  funding is  a matter  of                                                                   
prioritizing.   He  maintained that  policy direction  toward                                                                   
social   service    issues   should   be    the   community's                                                                   
responsibility.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holm respected  those comments, but maintained                                                                   
the need.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Kerttula, Moses, Foster, Holm                                                                                    
OPPOSED:       Kelly, Stoltze, Weyhrauch, Hawker, Meyer,                                                                        
               Chenault                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (4-6).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:45:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holm  MOVED to ADOPT  HSS #4, which  would add                                                                   
$125 thousand  Mental  Health Trust (MHTAAR)  dollars  & $125                                                                   
thousand  dollars to  Flexible Long Term  Care Services,  the                                                                   
Home  and  Community  Base Care  component.    Representative                                                                   
Hawker OBJECTED.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  advised  that the  request  had  been                                                                   
brought forward  after the  subcommittee had completed  their                                                                   
work.   He acknowledged the  Legislature's continued  need to                                                                   
address the "unrelenting  demand for senior services  now and                                                                   
into the upcoming future".                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker MOVED  to AMEND,  changing Home  and C                                                                   
Based Care to  Senior & Community based grants.   There being                                                                   
NO OBJECTION, HSS #4 was amended.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  WITHDREW his OBJECTION to  the amended                                                                   
HSS  #4.   There  being  NO  further  OBJECTION, HSS  #4  was                                                                   
adopted as amended.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:49:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kerttula MOVED to  ADOPT HSS #5,  which would                                                                   
add  $5 million  general  fund dollars  and  $1 million  TANF                                                                   
dollars to Community Action Prevention  & Intervention Grants                                                                   
component.  Representative Kelly OBJECTED.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kerttula stated  that the program would impact                                                                   
youth in Alaska  who are at risk of substance  abuse, suicide                                                                   
or    adopting   criminal    behavior    through    providing                                                                   
alternatives,  productive activities,  good  role models  and                                                                   
appropriate mentors.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer noted he serves  on the Boys and Girls Club of                                                                   
Anchorage, which has proven to  help youth at-risk statewide.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  argued that the request  creates a new                                                                   
program with an annual investment  of $6 million general fund                                                                   
dollars.    He  recommended  instead,  a  competitive  grants                                                                   
program.  He  added that the proposed initiatives  were about                                                                   
services to  help parents.   He urged that specific  programs                                                                   
be  targeted, including  basic  parenting skills.   He  urged                                                                   
that the amendment not be adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:56:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Stoltze commented on  his financial support of the                                                                   
Mat-Su Boys and  Girls Club, adding that he  could not second                                                                   
guess  the   work  of  the   subcommittee  or   those  budget                                                                   
decisions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:58:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Weyhrauch  discussed the process,  stipulating                                                                   
that his "no vote"  would not reflect the end  of the request                                                                   
process for the FY07 budget.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kerttula   echoed   sentiments   voiced   by                                                                   
Representative  Hawker,   regarding  the  need   to  leverage                                                                   
federal funds; however, experience  indicates that such funds                                                                   
are competitive  and that  they do  end up leveraging  money.                                                                   
She  referenced  past  dollars  well spent  through  the  Big                                                                   
Brothers,  Big  Sisters programs.    She added  her  comments                                                                   
regarding  parenting services,  pointing  out  that some  are                                                                   
families who  work hard and  just need  a little help.   With                                                                   
that help, those kids could make it.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  maintained his  objection,  commenting                                                                   
that  the  State  cannot  sustain   the  type  of  increases.                                                                   
Representative  Kerttula  maintained  that the  programs  are                                                                   
successful.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Kerttula, Moses, Foster, Meyer                                                                                   
OPPOSED:       Stoltze, Weyhrauch, Hawker, Holm, Kelly,                                                                         
               Chenault                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (4-6).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:05:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kerttula MOVED to  ADOPT HSS #6,  which would                                                                   
add $1.096 million  general fund dollars to  the Alaska Fetal                                                                   
Alcohol Syndrome Program, Behavioral  Health.  Representative                                                                   
Hawker OBJECTED.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kerttula  explained  that continuation  of  a                                                                   
targeted  effort  at identification,  training,  and  service                                                                   
development  for  individuals  with  Fetal  Alcohol  Syndrome                                                                   
Disorder  (FASD)  is  necessary  to minimize  the  number  of                                                                   
children   born  with   FASD   and  for   those   individuals                                                                   
experiencing some disability as  a result of FASD, maximizing                                                                   
success  at  living independent,  productive  lives.    Funds                                                                   
proposed for FY2007 would be used specifically to:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   · Develop/provide adult diagnostic services;                                                                                 
  · Job-training & coaching for youth & adults with FASD;                                                                       
   · In-state residential treatment options for children &                                                                      
     youth with FASD; and                                                                                                       
   · Statewide prevention messaging & educating Alaska about                                                                    
     the dangers of drinking alcohol during pregnancy.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kerttula urged support for the amendment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker   countered   that   FASD   was   the                                                                   
beneficiary of $5 million federal  dollars for those efforts.                                                                   
He encouraged that FASD be addressed  through a larger policy                                                                   
arena and  that "throwing money  at it" has not  demonstrated                                                                   
success.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kerttula  asked  about  the number  of  teams                                                                   
working   on  this  issue   statewide   and  what  they   had                                                                   
accomplished.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ANGELA  SOLARNO,  ADVISORY  BOARD  FOR  ALCOHOLISM  AND  DRUG                                                                   
ABUSE, noted that  there are 12 diagnostic teams  serving the                                                                   
State.   They serve a variety  of populations -  children and                                                                   
adults.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kerttula  asked what teams do  when addressing                                                                   
those persons  diagnosed  with FASD.   Ms. Solarno  explained                                                                   
that  a diagnosis  of FAS  is  rather difficult  and that  it                                                                   
would be a functional assessment.   After they are diagnosed,                                                                   
the  recipient  is then  available  to  receive the  type  of                                                                   
treatment they  need.  They can become  somewhat independent;                                                                   
otherwise, they become added costs to the State system.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly acknowledged that  it takes  a multiple                                                                   
system approach.   He talked  about stigmatizing  the abusers                                                                   
[mothers] and  the need for them  to share in the blame.   He                                                                   
emphasized  the harsh  realities of  FAS.   He did not  think                                                                   
money could solve the problem.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kerttula   voiced   support   of   continued                                                                   
education; she  stressed that  the condition is  controllable                                                                   
and agreed, it is a "terrible crime".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Moses, Foster, Kerttula                                                                                          
OPPOSED:       Weyhrauch, Hawker, Holm, Kelly, Meyer,                                                                           
               Chenault                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stoltze  &  Representative   Joule  were  not                                                                   
present for the vote.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-6).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:15:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kerttula MOVED to  ADOPT HSS #7,  which would                                                                   
add  $300  thousand general  fund/mental  health  dollars  to                                                                   
behavioral health grants.  Representative Hawker OBJECTED.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kerttula  spoke to  the  amendment.   Funding                                                                   
additional  social  detox  beds in  Anchorage  would  provide                                                                   
treatment services  to 300-600 people annually.   She pointed                                                                   
out that  substance abuse  professionals have testified  that                                                                   
social   detox  beds   are  desperately   needed   throughout                                                                   
Anchorage.   Alcohol  abuse requires  early intervention  and                                                                   
prevention  services  to  reduce  the  negative  outcomes  of                                                                   
alcohol  such as  domestic violence,  child  abuse crime  and                                                                   
health  problems.    Funding  for  the  program  would  cover                                                                   
expenses needed  for room, board and rehabilitation  services                                                                   
associated with clients who are  in intoxicated states at the                                                                   
time of  admission.  The  program emphasizes the  development                                                                   
of personal  skills needed  for sober  and drug free  living.                                                                   
Additional  social detox  beds  could reduce  the burden  and                                                                   
wait list for more costly medical detox beds.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker maintained  his objection and  related                                                                   
information regarding  the social-detox "soft approach".   He                                                                   
proposed that there be greater coordinated program systems.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:19:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Stoltze inquired if  the amendment was intended to                                                                   
be  added  to  the  Mental  Health  Budget.    Representative                                                                   
Kerttula said it was.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  asked  for  clarification   regarding  which                                                                   
budget the amendment would be taken from.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SHARON  KELLY, STAFF,  CO-CHAIR  CHENAULT,  commented it  was                                                                   
okay  to   proceed  as  both   bills  were  currently   under                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Kerttula, Moses                                                                                                  
OPPOSED:       Stoltze, Weyhrauch, Foster, Hawker, Holm,                                                                        
               Kelly, Meyer, Chenault                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:22:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Kerttula   MOVED    to   ADOPT    HSS   #8.                                                                   
Representative  Hawker  OBJECTED.    Representative  Kerttula                                                                   
preceded to  AMEND HSS #8,  adding to the appropriation  line                                                                   
Public  Assistance   and  allocation  to   Public  Assistance                                                                   
Administration  rather than  Behavior Health  Grants.   Also,                                                                   
the funding Source would be the TANF Federal Bonus funding.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kerttula addressed  Amendment  8 as  amended,                                                                   
explaining  that  the Governor  had  proposed  $3 million  in                                                                   
funding for community-based services,  programs and practices                                                                   
focused  on prevention  of underage alcohol  use.   Substance                                                                   
abuse prevention  funding  is critical  to Alaska's  future &                                                                   
that   underage  alcohol   use  is   a  significant   problem                                                                   
throughout Alaska.  Preventing  teen alcohol abuse would save                                                                   
considerable money  in the long-term areas of  traffic crash,                                                                   
criminal  justice,  productivity   losses,  health  care  and                                                                   
public assistance.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:24:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker questioned  if the amendment to the HSS                                                                   
#8 restored  the reduction  made by  the subcommittee  to the                                                                   
social services budget.  Representative  Kerttula affirmed it                                                                   
would.   Representative Hawker  recommended the amendment  be                                                                   
withdrawn.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       4:25:48 PM                                                                                                     
RECONVENE:     4:32:19 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kerttula  WITHDREW   the  amended   language                                                                   
proposed  to  HSS #8.    She re-worded  the  change,  leaving                                                                   
current language  and adding $1  million from TANF  to Public                                                                   
Assistance.   Representative Hawker OBJECTED for  the purpose                                                                   
of discussion.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker said  in order  to make the  amendment                                                                   
work technically,  the State would  be spending a  portion of                                                                   
the  bonus   pool.    Unless   the  authority  to   fund  the                                                                   
interagency receipt is provided, there is nothing to spend.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  WITHDREW   his   OBJECTION  to   the                                                                   
amendment to the amendment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:35:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion as amended.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Foster, Kerttula                                                                                                 
OPPOSED:       Weyhrauch, Hawker, Holm, Kelly, Stoltze,                                                                         
               Meyer, Chenault                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule & Representative  Moses were not present                                                                   
for the vote.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:36:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Kerttula   MOVED    to   ADOPT    HSS   #9.                                                                   
Representative  Hawker  OBJECTED.    Representative  Kerttula                                                                   
requested  to amend  the amendment,  changing the  allocation                                                                   
from  SED Youth  to Behavior  Health  Administration.   There                                                                   
being NO OBJECTION, HSS #9 was amended.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kerttula spoke  to HSS #9, which would provide                                                                   
adequate  staffing and  project  management for  coordination                                                                   
and   gate-keeping  functions.     She   stressed  that   the                                                                   
allocation would help youth-at-risk.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker countered  that the amendment would add                                                                   
three more  positions within the Department's  administrative                                                                   
structure.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Kerttula, Moses                                                                                                  
OPPOSED:       Foster,   Hawker,    Holm,   Kelly,   Stoltze,                                                                   
               Weyhrauch, Meyer, Chenault                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:40:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kerttula    MOVED   to   ADOPT    HSS   #10.                                                                   
Representative  Hawker  OBJECTED.    Representative  Kerttula                                                                   
MOVED to AMEND the amendment to  indicate general funds/1037,                                                                   
adding $1.250  million general fund dollars to  the seriously                                                                   
&  emotionally disturbed  youth,  Behavioral  Health.   There                                                                   
being NO OBJECTION to the amended language, it was adopted.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kerttula  spoke to the amended  HSS #10, which                                                                   
would  provide additional  funding  to the  Community  Mental                                                                   
Health  Centers to  work  with families  and  youth prior  to                                                                   
consideration  by   the  placement/resource   committees  for                                                                   
residential care.   Currently,  some families &  children may                                                                   
never connect with a community  mental health clinician prior                                                                   
to moving into residential care.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:42:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  maintained  that "bringing  the  kids                                                                   
home"  does not  exist; he  noted that  the subcommittee  had                                                                   
funded $800 thousand of the requested amount.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Kerttula, Moses                                                                                                  
OPPOSED:       Foster,   Hawker,    Holm,   Kelly,   Stoltze,                                                                   
               Weyhrauch, Meyer, Chenault                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:46:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
FUNDING CAP                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  MOVED to ADOPT  FUND CAP #1, which  would add                                                                   
$1.8  million dollars  from the  commercial passenger  vessel                                                                   
environmental  compliance  fund.     Representative  Kerttula                                                                   
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED  to AMEND FUND CAP #1 to  change Line 1,                                                                   
Page  62, Line  27, to  reflect  the current  version of  the                                                                   
bill.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was amended.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer spoke  to FUND CAP #1 as amended,  which helps                                                                   
the Department  of Environmental Conservation with  oil spill                                                                   
contingency  funding.  Representative  Kerttula WITHDREW  her                                                                   
OBJECTION.   There being  NO further  OBJECTION, FUND  CAP #1                                                                   
was adopted as amended.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:48:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  MOVED to  ADOPT FUND  CAP #2, which  would                                                                   
insert  $76,241.4   million  dollars  and   delete  $59,592.9                                                                   
million  dollars  for Alaska  Industrial  Development  Export                                                                   
Authority (AIDEA) dividends.  Vice Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kelly explained  the amendment.  It would  capitalize the                                                                   
Alaska Debt  Retirement Fund  and replaces $16,649.5  million                                                                   
AIDEA dividends  with  general funds;  also, it would  delete                                                                   
capitalization of  the Clean Water Fund, Drinking  Water Fund                                                                   
and Information  Services Fund.    Moving the  capitalization                                                                   
of the funds to the capital budget,  flow into and out of the                                                                   
funds  would appear  in  the same  appropriation  bill.   The                                                                   
action   is  necessary   to  improve   coordination  of   the                                                                   
capitalization  and appropriation amounts.   There is  no net                                                                   
impact on the total budget.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There  being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTION, FUND CAP #2 was adopted.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:49:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  MOVED to  ADOPT FUND  CAP #3, which  would                                                                   
amend  Section 21(o)  & Section  26(o).   Vice Chair  Stoltze                                                                   
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kelly  explained that in  April 2006, Sport-fish  revenue                                                                   
bonds would  be sold.   Due to a  delayed issuance,  there is                                                                   
anticipated more surcharge revenue  collections prior to debt                                                                   
service  being  payable  than   previously  estimated.    The                                                                   
increment to debt service would  allow the repayment of funds                                                                   
to occur more quickly than originally budgeted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There  being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:51:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  MOVED to  ADOPT FUND  CAP #4, which  would                                                                   
amend Section 26(g), State Debt  and other obligations.  Vice                                                                   
Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kelly  explained  that in  March  2006,  $344.6  million                                                                   
dollars in Alaska International  Airport System revenue bonds                                                                   
were sold  to refinance $104.9  million of outstanding  bonds                                                                   
for  savings  and  to  fund  $240   million  dollars  in  new                                                                   
spending.   The  increment to  debt  service due  to the  new                                                                   
money  issue  and payable  in  FY2007,  is reflected  in  the                                                                   
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There  being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:52:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
STATEWIDE                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault MOVED to ADOPT STATEWIDE #1, #24-                                                                             
GH2033\I.15, Bailey, 3/23/06.  Vice Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kelly  explained   that  the  STATEWIDE  #1,   #2  &  #3                                                                   
amendments  were all related.   The  House Finance  Committee                                                                   
wanted to  address fuel issues  in the budget,  not including                                                                   
it in  the base.   The amendment  attempts to appropriate  no                                                                   
additional  general  funds  unless   oil  prices  exceed  the                                                                   
official forecast  of $54 dollars  per barrel (bbl).   As the                                                                   
price of  oil increases, the  amount appropriated  to off-set                                                                   
agency  costs would  increase  to a  maximum  of $24  million                                                                   
dollars.     The  amount  of   the  appropriation   would  be                                                                   
determined by the year to date  price of oil.  There would be                                                                   
two different  dates during  the fiscal  year, one  September                                                                   
  thst,                                                                                                                         
30,  2006 and  the other March 312007.     The  following day                                                                   
of each month,  there would be a distribution of  funds up to                                                                   
$12 million  dollars.   For budgeting  & reporting  purposes,                                                                   
the estimated amount is zero.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kelly continued,  STATEWIDE #2  reappropriates the  non-                                                                   
general  fund  fuel  increases  in the  budget;  however,  it                                                                   
deletes  $100  thousand  general  fund dollar  match  to  the                                                                   
Department of  Military & Veterans Affairs, which  would keep                                                                   
that budget consistent with the  other departments.  Co-Chair                                                                   
Chenault  said  it had  been  added during  the  subcommittee                                                                   
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:54:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kelly  noted  that  STATEWIDE #3  was  an  amendment  to                                                                   
STATEWIDE  #1, which  places  sidebars  on appropriations  so                                                                   
that the  monies would  be appropriated  to the Governor  and                                                                   
then their  Office would  distribute it  to the  departments.                                                                   
She reiterated the sidebars for certain State agencies.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker thought that  the amendment  created a                                                                   
"tape linkage" between the price  of Alaska North Slope (ANS)                                                                   
crude oil  as the base  for the State  agencies and  asked if                                                                   
members  were  comfortable  with  that linkage.    Ms.  Kelly                                                                   
replied that the Chairman's office  used the $53.26/bbl price                                                                   
amount  as budgeted; the  Administration  could have  to come                                                                   
back  for additional  supplemental  funding.   The  amendment                                                                   
attempts to take care of the agencies  in the budget, without                                                                   
needing to save operating revenue for fuel.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker questioned  if  evidence existed  that                                                                   
the table  corresponds  to the retail  refined product  price                                                                   
purchased by  the departments.   Ms. Kelly could  not provide                                                                   
absolute assurance;  however, the  price was approved  by the                                                                   
Administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:57:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID TEAL,  DIRECTOR, LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE DIVISION,  stated                                                                   
that they had not looked at the  correlation but instead used                                                                   
information from  the Department  of Transportation  & Public                                                                   
Facilities, since  they have the greatest diesel  fuel costs.                                                                   
There  is a  correlation  between  crude prices  and  refined                                                                   
product  prices.    Representative  Hawker  appreciated  that                                                                   
perspective  but worried about  additional supplementals  for                                                                   
the State in FY08.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  wanted  to  get  away  from  supplemental                                                                   
funding requests.  There is a  need for a mechanism to assure                                                                   
the  departments that  there would  be funding  to cover  the                                                                   
fuel costs this year.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:00:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker concurred with the objective.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There  being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTION, STATEWIDE #1 was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal  pointed out that STATEWIDE  #3 was an  amendment to                                                                   
STATEWIDE #1.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to AMEND  STATEWIDE  #1 to  include                                                                   
STATEWIDE  #3.  There  being NO  OBJECTION, STATEWIDE  #3 was                                                                   
adopted as amended.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:02:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  asked if there  was objection  to adopting                                                                   
STATEWIDE #2.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:03:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer MOVED to RESCIND  previous action taken on DNR                                                                   
#2.  Representative Kelly OBJECTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer realized  that the program  was important  to                                                                   
the people  in Fairbanks but did  not think the  State should                                                                   
be responsible  to fund it.   Representative Kelly  countered                                                                   
that the  increment  had been  funded for a  longtime by  the                                                                   
State  and  was  included  for  funding  recommended  by  the                                                                   
Governor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       5:05:29 PM                                                                                                     
RECONVENE:     5:09:04 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:09:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Stoltze, Weyhrauch, Foster, Hawker, Meyer,                                                                       
               Chenault                                                                                                         
OPPOSED:       Holm, Kelly, Kerttula, Moses                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule was not present for the vote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (6-4) & action was RESCINDED.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Holm  stated the State does not do  a good job                                                                   
promoting renewable industry;  he thought that was not in the                                                                   
best interest of the State.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  echoed those sentiments,  understanding                                                                   
the frustration with the difficulties of the program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:11:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair  Stoltze pointed  out that  the amendment  had not                                                                   
yet been reintroduced  for discussion.   Representative Kelly                                                                   
acknowledged that, pointing out  that given the vote taken on                                                                   
rescinding, he would WITHDRAW DNR #2.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:12:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to ADOPT  DNR #5,  #24-GH2033\I.12,                                                                   
Bailey, 3/22/06.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:13:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses  WITHDREW  F&G  #9.    There  being  NO                                                                   
OBJECTION, it was withdrawn.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:14:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, COMMUNITY & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses  MOVED  to reinstate  DCCED  #5,  which                                                                   
would  add $6,460.0  million general  fund  dollars to  Power                                                                   
Cost Equalization (PCE).  Co-Chair Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses advised  that the  State had not  fully                                                                   
funded that  need for  many years and  has been prorated  for                                                                   
some time and now seriously needs funding.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault acknowledged  the importance of the concern                                                                   
for rural Alaska, however, pointed  out the statewide fueling                                                                   
issues now on the table.  He thought  that concerns addressed                                                                   
should be  the ones "on how to  best help all Alaskans".   He                                                                   
did not support the amendment.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:19:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kerttula  agreed that  there  needs  to be  a                                                                   
long-term  fix  to  the problem  of  energy  costs;  however,                                                                   
communities   hardest  hit  are   the  ones  requesting   PCE                                                                   
assistance.   Those communities are  experiencing an 8  to 10                                                                   
cent per kilowatt hour increase.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:20:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Moses acknowledged  that PCE  had been  added                                                                   
years  ago with  the  understanding that  it  would be  fully                                                                   
funded.   He felt  strongly that it  should be fully  funded.                                                                   
Co-Chair Chenault agreed but maintained his objection.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:20:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Kerttula, Moses, Foster                                                                                          
OPPOSED:       Kelly, Stoltze, Hawker, Holm, Meyer, Chenault                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch and  Representative Joule  were not                                                                   
present for the vote.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-6).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:21:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault acknowledged  that  there  are many  needs                                                                   
throughout  the State  which  have not  been  addressed.   He                                                                   
invited  Ms.  Frasca  from  the Office  of  the  Governor  to                                                                   
highlight  certain items  of concern  in  the budget  funding                                                                   
process; however, urged that the process move forward.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:22:-43 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHERYL  FRASCA, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  MANAGEMENT &  BUDGET,                                                                   
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, thanked  the Chair for her "first and                                                                   
only opportunity"  to address the full Committee.   She noted                                                                   
that  the  budget  proposed by  the  Governor  reflected  his                                                                   
priorities  for the  State of  Alaska and  the State's  basic                                                                   
responsibilities,  such   as  funding  for   K-12  education,                                                                   
protecting  Alaskans through the  Department of  Corrections,                                                                   
Department of  Public Safety, Division of Public  Health, and                                                                   
the Department  of Transportation and Public  Facilities with                                                                   
maintenance  of roads,  harbors and airports.   The  proposed                                                                   
budget, additionally,  included requests  by which  the State                                                                   
could take steps to meet future  opportunities; however, most                                                                   
of those were rejected.  She observed  that the House Finance                                                                   
Committee  substitute  reflects only  the  priorities of  the                                                                   
Committee  and   not  the   State's  responsibility   &  best                                                                   
interest.      The   Administration    has   requested   many                                                                   
opportunities  to  address  concerns with  the  budget  being                                                                   
proposed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca acknowledged  that the Committee  had accommodated                                                                   
some of the  Governor's concerns.  She pointed  out continued                                                                   
concerns  received from  the  Office of  Children's  Services                                                                   
case management system, positions  in the Division of Oil and                                                                   
Gas, transportation  safety, & rural energy  assistance.  She                                                                   
stated she  would not  address those  concerns at this  time;                                                                   
however,   indicated  significant   concerns  regarding   the                                                                   
Department of Corrections.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Frasca  pointed  out that  within  "budgeting  circles",                                                                   
there  is   a  sophisticated,   highly  technical   budgeting                                                                   
practice; it is more commonly  know as a "shell game" or some                                                                   
describe it  as "smoke and mirrors".   In Alaska,  the budget                                                                   
practice  hit  a fevered  pitch  in  the  late 90's  -  early                                                                   
2000's.  For  those unfamiliar with the practice,  it's where                                                                   
you re-label what  had previously been general  fund spending                                                                   
and you then call it a general  fund reduction.  In 1997, the                                                                   
Legislature created 5 non-general  fund categories.  In 2000,                                                                   
the Legislature  created another  21 [categories].   In 2002,                                                                   
the Legislature  created another  24.  Ms. Frasca  maintained                                                                   
that  amending  the statute  that  defines  non-general  fund                                                                   
program receipts, created 50 non-general fund designations.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  commented that the  State's primary  general fund                                                                   
responsibilities   are  public  safety,  corrections,   court                                                                   
system, K-12,  & the  legislature's budget.   Every  time the                                                                   
Legislature takes more out of  the general fund for a special                                                                   
interest,  there  is  less  to  meet  the  basic  traditional                                                                   
responsibilities.     She  expressed  her  respect   for  the                                                                   
Legislature's power  to appropriate, but asked  that the laws                                                                   
that govern such designations,  be respected and amended with                                                                   
caution.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:27:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PORTIA   PARKER,   DEPUTY   COMMISSIONER,   OFFICE   OF   THE                                                                   
COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF  CORRECTIONS, stated  that  the                                                                   
budget proposed  for the Department  will be problematic  and                                                                   
that there  is no  feasible way to  absorb the funding  level                                                                   
while continuing  to  provide the current  level of  service.                                                                   
The   Department  will   have   to  reduce   services   while                                                                   
eliminating  programs  to achieve  the  10%  reduction.   She                                                                   
pointed  out  that  interest   arbitration  for  correctional                                                                   
officers was  not funded; the residential  substance programs                                                                   
were not funded  and consequently will be discontinued.   The                                                                   
Department  will  need  to look  at  non-security  items  and                                                                   
decide what has the least impact on public safety.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:28:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  clarified   that   there  had   been                                                                   
misrepresentation  in   the  media  regarding   the  interest                                                                   
arbitration  issue.   That was  an amendment  offered by  the                                                                   
Governor's  office   after  the  Department   of  Corrections                                                                   
subcommittee had  closed.  He noted concerns  with the budget                                                                   
                    rd                                                                                                          
and asked if  the 23  Legislature had brought  forward a bill                                                                   
that would  have consolidated  other off-budget,  other funds                                                                   
into the general fund.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:30:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Frasca   explained   it  occurred   through   HB   232.                                                                   
Representative Hawker  pointed out that he had  supported the                                                                   
efforts with that bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca reiterated her appreciation  working in the budget                                                                   
process and  noted that  they would  continue to work  toward                                                                   
"transparency" in budgeting.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  related that the subcommittee  process worked                                                                   
diligently  with the  Administration, although  they had  not                                                                   
always agreed with increases being proposed.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:31:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault   referenced  a  "huge  increase   to  the                                                                   
budget",   acknowledging   that   the  increases   were   not                                                                   
sustainable  into the  future.  He  thanked the  subcommittee                                                                   
chairs  for  all  their  hard  work.   He  thought  that  the                                                                   
proposed budget was a "bit irresponsible".                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:35:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  said the timing  was early.   He stated                                                                   
that the  budget delivered by  the Governor was  over-weight,                                                                   
pointing out that federal funding  was falling away at a very                                                                   
quick  rate.   The budget  can not  be fixed  and he  worried                                                                   
about addressing the poorest of the poor.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:37:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  authority be  given to  Legislative                                                                   
Legal Services  to make necessary changes so  the legislation                                                                   
works  as  it  should.     There  being  NO  OBJECTION,  that                                                                   
authority was adopted.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster MOVED to  REPORT CS HB 365 (FIN) out of                                                                   
Committee with individual recommendations.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CS HB  365 (FIN)  was reported  out of  Committee with  a "do                                                                   
pass" recommendation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster MOVED to  REPORT CS HB 366 (FIN) out of                                                                   
Committee with individual recommendations.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CS HB  366 (FIN)  was reported  out of  Committee with  a "do                                                                   
pass" recommendation.                                                                                                           

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